Shoe patcher machine

Hey pals, I’m having a kind of maddening problem I was hoping yall would have insight into. So, I love my Sailrite Ultrafeed LSZ and it’s a dream on leather as well as denim and canvas and the other stuff i sew. But obviously I need a post bed or pole arm machine to close a boot. So far, I had been using Deborah’s post bed roller feed machine from I think Leather Machine Company? But fellow classmate and sewing machine addict Ray got one of these little shoe patcher machines from Bantam and sewed a lot of great stuff on it before giving it to me. When I sewed with the bobbins he had wound when he gave it to me, it was so great! Just like everyone on youtube says! But then it came time to wind the bobbins.
I just couldn’t get the tension right and consistent and the distribution up and down the bobbin consistent. So I need a solution to wind them automatically or to buy the right pre-wound size.
These little bobbins are some irregular size - Bantam claims they know of no standard they fit, an old post I found says maybe style I. Can’t find any pre-wound style I bobbins at Thread Exchange to experiment with, but this one place will let me buy…a gross. My own measurements were about 17mm diameter and 6mm tall, I guess I should see if the case could fit a style I.


Someone on Youtube said resin printed versions of these bobbins work just fine, so I was thinking about just modifying the original shape so the diameter just fits a standard bobbin winder (standalone or on my home machine), which of course sacrifices some of the total capacity but I can’t really use it at all if the bobbin won’t wind right.
Anyway, how do yall solve this? Anyone using these machines?

@citizen have you asked Ray how he wound the bobbins that worked?

If it’s like the bobbins on the singer 29k or adler patchers (I have an adler 30-1) then the capacity is so small that setting up and running a winder would take about as long as just winding by hand, so that’s what I do. I’ll take a video of how I do it if you like

Here’s a post on ebay for a lot of 100 prewound bobbins. Looking at the pics there are some style I bobbins in the mix. I don’t know anything else about the ebay post.

I would recommend looking at the Adler and singer patchers and taking note from those style winders, you can wind 10 bobbins in 10 minutes once you get good, If you switch between bobbin thread colors and weights, you’ll have to keep quite a bit. These are the patchers I’ve acquired and am using or setting up to use.

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